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Ramstrong

Quote from: maraque on September 03, 2013, 06:36:32 PM
Quote from: tapobrata_tb on September 03, 2013, 05:51:00 PM
Quote from: baggi aswani on September 03, 2013, 05:31:06 PM
Predators are on the Prowl on our Forum. Victimizing genuine members and with so much innocence the unsuspecting buyer ends up in a Bad Transaction.where does he turn? What would be his recourse?
Nothing.
You do all possible things to garner support from within the community, but to no avail.
I have been a victim this week and these scamsters have enough gumption to be hurt when we are candid. Their pleading, whining ritual is the key of their success.
Without naming I got dlivered a Camera with No Papers. Why? He forgot. When Money went in his account he was not busy. Anyways, Box with different Serial Number than the body. No Manual, Software CDs, No Warranty as promised.
Well these are the Vagaries of buying from unknown Predators. I have learnt a bitter lesson, buy the equipments physically and not online.
For few good fellas, these Predators scare the entire lot away.
And each time they have different Aliases.
Sure there are awesome members with whom I have dealt in past, but it just takes one bad transaction to put your reasoning in COMA.
Happy sharing Folks
Baggi

It would be a good idea to name and shame the sellers, if the seller has not delivered the goods as promised and is not cooperating after the sale. Saves us some headache and we too can also not deal with them in the future.

Yes, that would be helpful to others. A sort of blacklist, if you will, of members to shy away from.

Certainly can empathise with you. Nevertheless, sharing the deatails of such predators will serve as a simple alert to other members which is quite necessary & highly recommended.
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maraque

Quote from: tapobrata_tb on September 03, 2013, 05:51:00 PM
Quote from: baggi aswani on September 03, 2013, 05:31:06 PM
Predators are on the Prowl on our Forum. Victimizing genuine members and with so much innocence the unsuspecting buyer ends up in a Bad Transaction.where does he turn? What would be his recourse?
Nothing.
You do all possible things to garner support from within the community, but to no avail.
I have been a victim this week and these scamsters have enough gumption to be hurt when we are candid. Their pleading, whining ritual is the key of their success.
Without naming I got dlivered a Camera with No Papers. Why? He forgot. When Money went in his account he was not busy. Anyways, Box with different Serial Number than the body. No Manual, Software CDs, No Warranty as promised.
Well these are the Vagaries of buying from unknown Predators. I have learnt a bitter lesson, buy the equipments physically and not online.
For few good fellas, these Predators scare the entire lot away.
And each time they have different Aliases.
Sure there are awesome members with whom I have dealt in past, but it just takes one bad transaction to put your reasoning in COMA.
Happy sharing Folks
Baggi

It would be a good idea to name and shame the sellers, if the seller has not delivered the goods as promised and is not cooperating after the sale. Saves us some headache and we too can also not deal with them in the future.

Yes, that would be helpful to others. A sort of blacklist, if you will, of members to shy away from.

tapobrata_tb

Quote from: baggi aswani on September 03, 2013, 05:31:06 PM
Predators are on the Prowl on our Forum. Victimizing genuine members and with so much innocence the unsuspecting buyer ends up in a Bad Transaction.where does he turn? What would be his recourse?
Nothing.
You do all possible things to garner support from within the community, but to no avail.
I have been a victim this week and these scamsters have enough gumption to be hurt when we are candid. Their pleading, whining ritual is the key of their success.
Without naming I got dlivered a Camera with No Papers. Why? He forgot. When Money went in his account he was not busy. Anyways, Box with different Serial Number than the body. No Manual, Software CDs, No Warranty as promised.
Well these are the Vagaries of buying from unknown Predators. I have learnt a bitter lesson, buy the equipments physically and not online.
For few good fellas, these Predators scare the entire lot away.
And each time they have different Aliases.
Sure there are awesome members with whom I have dealt in past, but it just takes one bad transaction to put your reasoning in COMA.
Happy sharing Folks
Baggi

It would be a good idea to name and shame the sellers, if the seller has not delivered the goods as promised and is not cooperating after the sale. Saves us some headache and we too can also not deal with them in the future.

baggi aswani

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Predators are on the Prowl on our Forum. Victimizing genuine members and with so much innocence the unsuspecting buyer ends up in a Bad Transaction.where does he turn? What would be his recourse?
Nothing.
You do all possible things to garner support from within the community, but to no avail.
I have been a victim this week and these scamsters have enough gumption to be hurt when we are candid. Their pleading, whining ritual is the key of their success.
Without naming I got dlivered a Camera with No Papers. Why? He forgot. When Money went in his account he was not busy. Anyways, Box with different Serial Number than the body. No Manual, Software CDs, No Warranty as promised.
Well these are the Vagaries of buying from unknown Predators. I have learnt a bitter lesson, buy the equipments physically and not online.
For few good fellas, these Predators scare the entire lot away.
And each time they have different Aliases.
Sure there are awesome members with whom I have dealt in past, but it just takes one bad transaction to put your reasoning in COMA.
Happy sharing Folks
Baggi

Brendon

I would be good if you detail your issue with the flash seller a bit more. I recall you posted that it was resolved before editing your post again.
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Ryan

Well trust is important and one should not let a few bad transactions affect how we deal. What we learn is take a few more precautionary steps than normal.   Naming and shaming on social networks is not a good way to approach a bad transaction. That is the persons personal  space and not and extension of the forum. What happens here must stay here. A simple alert to other users is recommended. We may want to argue about the approach and rationalize that the person must be named and shamed everywhere, a little restraint goes a long way. Warning other users on the forum should be priority one if no resolution appears.


NO Camera NO CRY- Click through my eyes until i die.

itsme_soumya

Quote from: toofan on August 23, 2013, 10:49:20 PM
One suggestion from me. One should ask for his facebook Id. If any such cases happens in future.. We could atleast spoil his so called virtual social reputation.

So  guys asks for a facebook id from person before buying any item.
are you sure that might work? you post one derogatory comment in his wall and the next moment he will block you and remove that posting. simple.

see, the whole buy n sell thingy works on trust here. if the seller is not honest, then the buyer will have no option to recover money spent on an item. whatever way we discuss here, nothing gonna work as once the item is sold, liability ends there from seller's perspective. sad, but that's the fact.

cheers!
soumya
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toofan

One suggestion from me. One should ask for his facebook Id. If any such cases happens in future.. We could atleast spoil his so called virtual social reputation.

So  guys asks for a facebook id from person before buying any item.
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Ryan

#137
Quote from: Bharat Varma on August 20, 2013, 03:44:07 PM
Did you discuss this issue with the seller before posting here? If so, what was the response?

i put in a sms that if i did not hear i was posting it here..

I also gave the benefit of doubt by keeping it with batteries hoping that i could form the capacitors before i smsed .

if he has anything to say i would be more than happy to hear the same. 

I stand by my earlier comment. Please do not deal with this " Peniless, student story teller"
NO Camera NO CRY- Click through my eyes until i die.

Bharat Varma

Did you discuss this issue with the seller before posting here? If so, what was the response?
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