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[Anirban Brahma]

Sorry Anirban Bramha, I not your dutimanda or whatever. I know this guy that much i can tell you.. sorry again somewhere its a mistake. this much i can tell you he has enough money and can pay your 2k


initially i thought not to discuss here but that guy is suffering from some diseases and not present here. i cannot disclose more.

Requesting Mods: please go a head and delete my account as well.. its seems something wrong been intrepreted and unnecessary talks are happening. and i am not dutiman.

thank you all and JJMPF.

PS: Anirban Bramha - you can have a word with him once he gets well and take your money also.

[Hellwrath]

Requesting Mods: please go a head and delete my account as well.. its seems something wrong been intrepreted and unnecessary talks are happening. and i am not dutiman.

This is a disturbing trend I see on JJMPF these days. Everyone wants to become a martyr fighting for the cause of someone else. This is not an establishment you are fighting against. This is a community/forum, where mods listen and understand. If you have a concern, take it up with the mods and do it even before you post.

As far as the issue itself is concerned, it's between Anirban and Dyutiman. Dyutiman should have asked mods to unblock his id for him to give an explanation. Password reset takes 2 seconds for any mod if his memory is weak. Anirban has a screenshot of messages exchanged and even though I do not understand Bengali, from what I could gather Dyutiman clearly has not denied paying 2k saying it was never in the deal, but he keeps delaying it for one or the other reason. That also implies that he agrees that he needs to pay 2k. I do not know about his health and all that, but if that's really the case, hope he recovers soon.

[Anirban Brahma]

Thanks Hellwrath, must have been quite an adventure to read and understand the Bengali conversation.

The reason I posted this in the first place is not for mere 2k, but to stop a new trend of low balling and price reduction starting by not paying the seller certain amount. Since what we do on JJMEHTA is many times based on blind trust, its very important that we value each others morals and uphold the trust.

[Gouthamakugve]

If Dyutiman  had health problem then why would he block Anirban in FB ? When it comes to quoting price, I think seller is free to quote any price, I don't think it can be excuse for not paying remaining amount due.   

[iamsomnath]

it is beyond my imagination that such fraudulent behaviour can be defended in any manner. anyway he is exposed at least. the issue was never the amount of money. if he is willing to pay after getting well then why doesnt he confirm it here .... of course thru another brand new shining id... lol

[pixelshooter]

Wow, a lot of activity happening on this thread. I should visit it more often.

initially i thought not to discuss here but that guy is suffering from some diseases and not present here. i cannot disclose more.

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PS: Anirban Bramha - you can have a word with him once he gets well and take your money also.

To add to what Hellwrath said about people fighting for someone else's cause, it is also sad to know that in today's age when a person's online presence/activity can be tracked easily, we still have claims such as the one above being made. See screenshot taken from BPC to understand what I mean.



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[Piyusht]

Dear angshuman,
by the confidence you are showing in explaining 'his problems' and 'his justifications', I somewhere felt that the guy is either your soulmate ( yeah I said right word :) ) or you are his father and that is why you know each and every details about him

By the way, is he (your friend ) suffering from any long lasting and serious health issue like Cancer ? The reason I am asking is that its been a long time Anirban opened his heart out here and still that guy is not well means he must be in a big disaster

And if you are not the same guy, why don't you show your facebook account link or provide your contact number so that the culprit can talk to you and Understand "his" problems from you :) Or else you can show this much care towards him by paying the money to Anirban :)

The reason me and other members are commenting on your post is because it looks very kiddish to see your posts and the way you have explained them....  They just confirmed you wrong

[Hankosaurus]

The Moderators have locked the account of angshuman1976.

Fellow Members please keep comments within this sticky salient, and with a focus on the facts. Verbose commentary clutters the thread making it less useful to those Members who would scan it to detect questionable sellers.

[Beyond Legacy]

The Moderators have locked the account of angshuman1976.

Fellow Members please keep comments within this sticky salient, and with a focus on the facts. Verbose commentary clutters the thread making it less useful to those Members who would scan it to detect questionable sellers.

Sorry, but what does lock means?? He wont be able to post in jjm forum now??
If so, i would like to ask - for what reason.. he has freedom to speak, let his pov should also come forward.
Also, is he verified as duityaman with another id or its just an assumption

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Mod Note:"Locked" means that the account named can no longer be accessed, used, or re-used by anyone:

angshuman1976 said this:

Requesting Mods: please go a head and delete my account as well.. its seems something wrong been intrepreted and unnecessary talks are happening. and i am not dutiman.

[kumarrishi]

I am sad to list it here. But thats the way it is.

I bought an old sigma 400 mm 5.6 apo from member Gaurav Naik. (same ID)
http://www.jjmehta.com/forum/index.php?topic=22364.0

Before buying we had a few telephonic conversation. He informed me of some fungus and some water droplets he sees now in lens.

I have problem of water droplets in my other lenses too but on keeping them on room temperature or slightly warm sunlight, they are gone in a day. So i was hopeful and i purchased the lens.

On getting the lens there was some fungus as expected but the droplets described by him were large oil droplets all over the lens. I confirmed this with a technician in Guwahati. I called him number of times but he didnt picked up phone neither he replied to my msg. After 4-5 days i had a long tour (i am right now on tour) so i send him a strong msg that if you don't reply now regarding this situation, i am sending the lens back.

So his first call after talks of selling lens came and i explained the condition. He kept repeating that these are water droplet and would go in a day or two. I explained to him that i have consulted a lens technician and i have kept the lens for last 3-4 days in good sun (not harsh but soft sun ) still the droplets are not going or not even diminishing. So i am with technician that these are oil droplets.

Next i told him the cost of repair that technician has told me and i confirmed with some people with whom i get my old lenses cleaned. He kept saying let the lens be cleaned that is really water droplets and cost would not be so much. After hours of explanation with sms he agreed and then he said he would share half the cost. Even though i am not suppose to pay for condition not described by the seller I also agreed, but then he asked me for bills and pics of open lenses.

People who repair lenses in small shops usually don't give bills and regarding that we had an argument and regarding trust on me he said he cant have blind trust on anyone. I am on tour and i stay in remote place in Meghalaya with many places have no electricity etc. For me to take so much headache of getting the lens repaired in Delhi/Kolkata was not enough, this guy was not believing the approx price quoted and he kept on saying send me pics of lens opened and bill.

Ultimately my patience ran out, i told him lens is not as described - these oil droplets were not communicated to me so i am sending it back. Now he gives argument that so many people were after this lens and now if i get a buyer then only he will take the lens.

So what i am suppose to do dupe anyone else to get back my money. The lens is with me, he is not sending his full address. I am on tour and can get it repaired in 2-3 months and that time frame would not be ok for anyone.

I believe it was his genuine mistake in understanding that is water droplet but after so many messages, he behaves as its not his problem.
perhaps my 8k has gone down the drain but want to aware people about it.

There might be his side of story..but i don't understand why he keep insisting i find a buyer for this now, as i am not taking it, as its not as described. There are perhaps shops which can clean for cheap in Mumbai... cant he get it fixed and sell? Why he want it off in same condition. He doesn't trust me how can i trust him that there is nothing else wrong with this lens.

I have some 20-30 sms in my phone, if its gets to a point to prove, i can forward to the rightful person.

Perhaps trust has lost its value now...i trusted someone without having full knowledge of his credential, but i had similar interactions with number of other new members etc never had any problem. Last time another lens end up in similar situation the seller excepted his mistake (genuine). Why such sellers don't take responsibility even if its genuine mistake (i am not sure now with Gaurav).

Expect moderators to take decision as appropriate.

Mod Note: Mods are discussing this issue now.